The most massive Honda external filter for automatic transmissions. Started installing on Honda cars at the end of 2001. Such a filter is on the Honda Civic 7 (only on the variator), 8 and 9 generations, Honda SRV 2, 3, 4 and 5 generations, Honda Accord 7, 8 and 9 generations and many others. As you can see, demand creates supply, and our Chinese friends produce huge quantities of counterfeits for this filter. Let's take a look at one of them.
The appearance does not arouse any special suspicion. Those who are very attentive may notice a slight difference in the type of writing. The packaging and the label are very well done. On this you can forget about the good.
The counterfeit filter is lighter. They couldn't even do it.
1. There is always a mark on the inlet side of the original filter. Such a factory feature is available from Toyo Roki and their American subsidiary Filtech. It is these firms that produce this filter.
2. The color of the metal of fakes is always yellowish. The paint is uneven. The metal is much thinner. They even differ in shape.
3. The date of manufacture of the filter and the date it was packaged are shown on the filter itself and on the labels.
Original production date: 7В27 = 17 years, February, 27 days
Original packing date: 7С09 = 17 years, March, 9 days.
Counterfeit date of manufacture: 4B27 = 14 February, 27 days
Counterfeit packing date: 4C13 = 14 year March 13 day.
Fake details are often written as the 46th day or nonexistent month. Their release years, as a rule, lag behind by 3-4 years. Or vice versa for 1-2 years ahead. You can see how to determine the release date on this page.
In a fake filter, the amount of the filter element is much less, and so that the cartridge does not dangle, it is supported by a spring.
And this is where the fun begins. The filters are sawn in one place, and their designs are very different.
1. The bypass valve on the original is on the inlet side, but on the counterfeit it is upside down.
To make it clearer what this valve is for, we made this picture. Under normal conditions, oil along the outer wall enters the filter element, passes through it and enters the automatic transmission already cleaned. In the event that the oil is very thick (in extreme frost) or if the filter element is completely clogged, the oil passes through this bypass valve.
The filter is specially made asymmetrical. This is the so-called foolproofing. So that when installing it could not be put backwards. And so that the valve is always on the inlet side.
But on a fake, this valve was put upside down. The Chinese did not begin to think about what the valve is for and how the liquid circulates in no way.
For the sake of purity of experiments, we still decided to show how much paper is in a fake.
The filter element on a fake is not only smaller in height, but also its diameter is noticeably smaller than the original. Which ultimately gives a significantly smaller filtration area.
Well, as usual. How the original and the fake glow in ultraviolet light.
1. The original has two luminescent marks. The letter "H" glows brightly, the letter "N" seems to be half-glowing.
The fake all glows like ordinary paper.
This original filter 25430-PLR-003 you can buy and install in our technical center.
The car owner can change the transmission oil for the Honda CR-V 2 on his own, without the help of specialists. However, without a specialized tool and disassembling the gearbox, drain lubricating fluid completely fail. Therefore, the car owner can only make a partial replacement with his own hands.
Which oil is better to choose in an automatic transmission for a Honda SRV 2?
When changing the oil in an automatic transmission on a Honda SRV 2, the main focus is on choosing a new lubricant. They buy it in accordance with the instructions of the manufacturer to maintenance car.
It is not recommended to fill in other analogs in the automatic transmission of Honda SRV 2. This is due to the high thermal loads on the transmission, due to which the oil boils. As a result, the gearbox fails after 30-50 thousand kilometers.
When do you need to change the automatic transmission oil on a Honda CR-V 2?
A separate aspect is the frequency of oil change in automatic transmissions in Honda CR-V 2. There are several common indicators, which are paid attention to when solving this issue:
- indicators from the manufacturer - according to them, the lubricant in the transmission needs to be changed every 50 thousand km;
- Russian operating conditions of the car - taking them into account, the service life of the lubricating fluid is reduced to 20-40 thousand km;
- individual conditions of use - depending on these factors, the overall indicator may also be reduced.
K n personal factors that reduce the service life of the lubricated grease, include:
- driving speed and aggressive driving;
- the frequency and duration of city trips;
- frequent stops, turns;
- road surfacing, sliding, slipping, holes;
- additional loads, lifts, towing trailers;
- climatic conditions, annual temperature fluctuations.
Taking these aspects into account, it is recommended to identify the gearbox oil change intervals on an individual basis. To do this, attention is paid to preventive checks, during which the volume of the lubricant is measured and its appearance is assessed.
Signs of the need for replacement transmission oil include a change in its color and density, the appearance of a burning smell, impurities, sediment. These factors indicate a loss of lubricating properties, which can soon lead to malfunctions in the operation of the automatic transmission.
Some car owners also refer to interruptions in the operation of the gearbox as signs of an expired lubricant service life. Inconsistent shifting, extraneous sounds, shocks and vibrations - all this indicates not only the need to change the oil, but also the relevance of diagnostics of the transmission system by specialists.
It is not recommended to wait for breakdowns in the gearbox - this unit is considered one of the most difficult in a car and its repair will be quite expensive. At the first suspicion of poor-quality operation of the oil, its preventive replacement is performed. In this case, even partial draining and refilling will avoid costly repairs in the future.
Replacement process
Do-it-yourself oil change in automatic transmission Honda SRV 2 begins with the process preparation... During it they prepare necessary tools, buy consumables, choose a place to work.
The specificity of the assembly of the Honda CR-V 2 does not allow you to remove the pallet, also when self-replacement oils do not change the filter. This is due to the need to disassemble the gearbox, which should not be done in the absence of skills and knowledge.
On preparatory stage check the system for faulty connections, purchase replacement parts for them. Usually, during the prevention, together with the oil, they must change the drain plug washer, if the bolt is damaged, they also change it.
To work with changing the lubricant and components, you will need a flat space with convenient access to the main components of the system. The possibility of using a flyover, a repair pit or a lift is emphasized. If they are absent, a jack with supports will do.
In the process of work, attention is paid to compliance safety precautions... The car must be secured safely for the owner. Some people remove the negative from the battery as an additional precaution.
Also pay attention to the high temperature of the drained grease and its toxicity. In the process of work, they use rubber gloves, to collect liquid, an unnecessary container is prepared, preventing the mining from getting into the soil.
List of instruments for changing the oil in the automatic transmission Honda CRV 2 includes the following accessories:
- a set of keys and screwdrivers, gates with socket heads;
- clothes that you do not mind getting dirty, lint-free rags, rubber gloves;
- capacity from 4 liters for collecting mining;
- new oil, a washer for the drain plug, if necessary, and other components to replace worn parts.
Given the impossibility of carrying out a complete oil change on your own, the procedure is carried out at a partial level. To increase the efficiency of the process, the general procedure is repeated - this increases the oil consumption, however, it makes it possible to better clean the system of waste liquid residues.
Draining old oil from the tank
Draining the oil from the automatic transmission on the Honda SRV 2 is carried out according to the following procedure:
- warm up the engine by circulating the lubricant;
- uncork the filler neck in the engine compartment;
- find a drain plug from below, substitute a container under it;
- uncork the drain, allow the liquid to drain into the prepared container.
It is usually drained up to 3.5 liters, the amount is determined using a measuring canister. According to the obtained value, the volume of oil for filling is further measured. If time permits, allow the mining to cool down for a more accurate value.
Pallet rinsing and swarf removal
In the Honda CR-V 2, the pan is not removable, which to some extent complicates the process of draining and flushing. Given this factor, the emphasis is on cleaning the entire system.
The flushing procedure involves refilling the oil at various intervals. Some do it immediately after warming up the engine, others after several hundred kilometers.
This cleaning of the transmission involves the following steps:
- drain the old lubricant, fill in a new one in its place;
- let the car run, it is better to drive for a while;
- drain new grease as used, refill with fresh one.
The process can be repeated several times until the drained liquid remains sufficiently clean. This method increases the required amount of purchased oil up to 15 liters.
Flushing removes waste grease residues and sediment from the system. Taking into account the cost complete replacement for specialists, this option, even with additional costs for oil, is cheaper for the driver.
Filling in new oil
Filling the automatic transmission of Honda SRV 2 with oil does not involve complex actions. After draining and flushing, clean the drain hole and plug, change the washer, and, if necessary, the bolt itself. The system is plugged, the tightness of the connection is checked.
New fluid is poured into the filler neck, through which the level of transmission lubricant is checked. If the volume was measured on a non-cooled working out, it is recommended not to add a little.
Then the engine is warmed up for several minutes with all gears shifted. After warming up, measure the oil level, top up or pump out if necessary. In a heated and cooled state, the amount of grease should not go beyond the permissible limits indicated on the dipstick.
Good day to all! From this article you will learn how partial replacement oils in automatic transmission Honda SRV... First, as usual, a little theory.
Automatic transmission- this is one of the most demanding details modern cars... At the same time, the automatic transmission is one of the most expensive parts of a car. Therefore, in order to avoid costly repair or replacement of the machine, it must be properly operated and maintained. The most significant procedure is ATF replacement. We will talk about this today.
When is an oil change required in a Honda SRV automatic transmission?
An oil change in a Honda SRV machine is required to be performed after 30,000 km. However, if you use the car in difficult conditions, then it is best to shorten this period. In this case, severe operating conditions mean frequent towing of trailers, other cars, or driving on high revs, frequent wheel slip, etc. If you bought a used car and are in doubt about the last time the fluid in the box was changed, then it is also better not to delay with the replacement. Also, if you notice jerks or delays when changing gears, then you must first change the ATF.
What oil is required to replace a Honda SRV automatic transmission?
HONDA CR-V automatic transmissions require oil of standard or. The last liquid is over modern version... However, both liquids are compatible and mix well with each other without any consequences. For a partial replacement, you will need about 4 liters of ATF.
What tool or attachments will you need?
To change the oil in the automatic transmission Honda SRV, we need a standard set of tools, namely:
1. 10 "square wrench.
2. Funnel with extension hose.
3. A clean cloth, napkin or rag.
4. A container for working off, preferably with a graduated scale, to measure the volume of the drained oil.
5. The simplest carburetor cleaner.
6. Sealing washer for the drain plug.
The progress of oil change in automatic transmission Honda SRV
1. The first step is to measure the oil level in the box. This is done as follows. The engine warms up to operating temperature, after which the vehicle is parked on a flat surface. We turn off the engine and wait 1-2 minutes. Then we take out the probe (it is located between the battery and the case air filter) and look at the current level. It should be at the point farthest from the end of the stylus. If the level is lower, then mark for yourself that you need to fill in a little more oil than it was drained.
2. After that, remove the dipstick to the side and unscrew the drain plug with a tetrahedron. First, we just rip off the plug, remove the key to the side and turn the plug to the end with our hand. Keep a waste container close at hand. It is important not to drop the cork into the container for the old ATP, and also not to burn your hands with the oil, as it will be hot.
3. When the development has stopped flowing, we measure the volume of the drained oil. Should be about 3-3.5 liters.
4. We treat the drain plug with a carburetor cleaner. The fact is that on this car a special magnet is built in the drain plug, which collects fine dust and shavings that are formed during the operation of the box.
5. Take a new O-ring and wrap the drain plug in place. Do not overdo it so as not to rip the threads.
6. Insert the hose into the hole of the dipstick and fill the automatic transmission with exactly the same amount of oil through the funnel as it was drained. Have you measured the right amount? If not, then don't forget to do it.
7. Insert the dipstick into place and start the engine. We are waiting for it to warm up to operating temperature. We sit in the salon and, with the brake pedal pressed, turn on all the automatic transmission positions one by one. We do everything with a slight delay of 3-5 seconds in each position. Then we turn off the engine and check the oil level in the box. It should be at the top mark on the dipstick. If the oil level is lower, add the correct amount.
Important! Do not pour oil into the box! If you accidentally poured more than required, then pump out the excess amount with a conventional medical probe.
8. After a few kilometers, check the level again. He shouldn't change.
Everything! This completes the procedure for changing the oil in the automatic transmission Honda SRV. In time, all the work takes about 30-40 minutes. By completing this procedure yourself, you can save on work in the service. The cost of everything will be equal to the cost Supplies, namely the transmission fluid.
We also invite you to watch a video of changing the Honda SRV 3 oil in the automatic transmission, in which everything is described and shown in detail.
Thank you for your attention and see you soon on our website!
Now let's talk about replacing oils in automatic transmission Honda... The most important question is when should you change the oil?
If everything is more or less clear with the engine - the replacement time can be judged either by the mileage or by the color of the oil, then in the Honda automatic transmission the oil changes only by the mileage. Often, having stopped by a service station with a request to change the oil, a person hears from a pseudo-master, “why do you need to change it, it’s clean and doesn’t smell” ?! Remember: ATF Z1, judging by the drop of oil on the dipstick, does not change color, smell, and consistency until irreversible processes of destruction of the automatic transmission begin.
Drain the purest (as indicated by the dipstick) oil, and you will see that in fact it is not so clear. The special fluid for automatic transmission does not contain special detergents, therefore, if the unit does not begin to wear severely, it will not turn very black. Slight darkening is acceptable, but black liquid on the dipstick usually indicates that the automatic transmission is asking for a replacement.
That is why two rules should be observed - first, if the car was constantly serviced by a good master, then the replacement of the special fluid is made every 30,000 - 35,000 km. In the conditions of the northern regions, it makes sense to reduce the interval to 25,000 - 30,000 km. And the second rule, if you bought a car and do not know when the oil in the automatic transmission was changed, do not save, and change it immediately.
In Russia, there is a terrible tale about the complexity and high cost of replacing fluid in a Honda automatic transmission. At many service stations, colossal amounts of liquid (up to 16 liters!) Are prescribed for this harmless process, as well as expensive installations for pumping oil under pressure. Paradoxically, it is precisely this approach that destroys the automatic transmission. The fact is that many masters approach the issue of oil change in Honda automatic transmissions from the position of oil change in automatic transmissions of other cars, and you and I already know that these boxes are structurally different.
We will try to describe the process of changing the oil in a Toyota automatic transmission so that it is clear what the mistake of many masters when approaching Honda is. When changing the fluid in a Toyota automatic transmission, a special flushing fluid is used, which is certainly useful for an automatic transmission of this brand. Further, in the process of changing the oil, the automatic transmission filter is removed, which can be disposable (it changes), or stationary (reusable, it is cleaned either mechanically or by means of flushing fluid). The pallet is removed, the deposits that inevitably settle at the bottom of the pallet are washed out, the pallet is put into place on a new gasket. It would seem that everything is simple and clear. But, approaching Honda with the same order of things, we find the following - the box does not have a removable pallet! As a result, it will no longer be possible to clean the sump from deposits. Then, it turns out that the turbidity raised by the flushing liquid should settle in the filter, which must be replaced. And here the catch number two lies in wait - the filter is in the middle of the box, between the two halves of its case, and you can change it only by removing and disassembling the box. Not a single service station in the world will offer you in a sober mind to do this incredibly time-consuming and expensive operation when changing the oil in an automatic transmission.
What is fraught with such an incorrect replacement procedure as replacing "on the device"? Firstly, the failure of the automatic transmission filter. A filter clogged with deposits simply does not allow liquid to pass through itself, creating an enormous oil pressure at the inlet, while there is simply no pressure at the outlet. Of course, finding yourself in such a position, hydraulic system the box simply does not withstand the loads and breaks down. The most common symptom of a breakdown in this case is the inability to move the car from a place with the D4 selector lever position. As a rule, the car roars like a wounded animal, but cannot move. Sometimes, it happens, it starts moving, but at 3000 rpm. In fact, this means the death of the automatic transmission, in this case a very expensive and long-term repair is required, which is sometimes equal to half the cost of the car. How can you avoid this? It is necessary to change the oil in the automatic transmission correctly, and we will tell you how to do it right below.
Many Russian car enthusiasts want their favorite car to have a comfortable modern interior, a powerful engine, as well as an excellent suspension that can cope with any off-road conditions. These characteristics are fully consistent with the crossover, which was designed by engineers and designers. Japanese company Honda Motor Co., Ltd. The model is called CR-V III (third generation). The car was produced from 2007 to 2012, after that it was replaced new model 4th generation.
Transmission features
Honda SRV 3 is equipped with two types of gearboxes - manual transmission (6-speed manual) and automatic transmission (5-speed automatic). V automatic transmission includes:
According to numerous reviews of car owners, the CR-V automatic copes with its work - it changes gears very smoothly and gives a minimum excessive consumption of fuel. The torque converter works in the driving range from second to fifth gear. McPherson front suspension and multi-link rear suspension make it easy and comfortable to ride on any road. On the Internet, advertising videos can be used to appreciate the beauty and power of this car.
Grade Logic system as component The automatic transmission shifts gears not only depending on the engine speed. Driving conditions are also analyzed - downhill, downhill, in the city, on uneven roads, as well as the position throttle, the use of the brake pedal and other parameters. Depending on this, the regulator with a fuzzy algorithm selects the most suitable gear, moving the shift moment to one side or the other.
Structurally, the automatic transmission, designed by Honda specialists, differs from similar units from other manufacturers. Other materials are used in the production of parts, the structure can withstand higher temperatures, because it is capable of working under heavy loads. Therefore, the deputy chief designer of Honda Motors, Masahira Ishikawa, claims that no other ATF (Automatic Transmission Fluid), except for the one provided by the manufacturer, cannot be poured into the automatic transmission. It used to be ATF Z1, today it is the original ATF DW1. Otherwise, the box will fail after 30-40 thousand km, since no other oil is able to withstand such temperature regime- it will just boil, with far-reaching consequences.
When and how to change transmission fluid
CR-V owners should remember that in a Honda automatic transmission, the working fluid changes only by mileage. That is, it is useless to hope and wait until the oil darkens and a sediment appears in it. Transmission fluid, as a rule, does not change color, consistency over time and remains the same transparent. Only its properties change, many of which are lost after a run of 30–40 thousand km. Therefore, it is highly recommended to replace ATF after every 30 thousand run. If you have any additional questions on this topic, look at the videos, there are a lot of them on the Internet.
If the operating conditions are difficult, only partial replacement is regularly performed, then it is advisable to change it more often, after 15–20 thousand km. If you don't keep up with the schedule, expensive repairs may be needed over time. If the car is purchased at secondary market, then an oil change is immediately required, no matter what the previous owner of the car may say. According to Masahira Ishikawa, for CR-V machines the oil replacement method used in automatic transmissions of other manufacturers is not suitable.
That is, pumping oil under pressure and using a large amount of new fluid at the same time can only do harm. After all, the design of the gearbox at Honda is unique. There are at least two reasons why you should not rinse the box:
- The Honda automatic machine does not have a removable sump, so it cannot be physically removed and cleaned of deposits. During flushing, this turbidity will rise from the sump and settle on the filter, clogging it.
- The filter is not removable and not reusable. To get to it, you will need to completely disassemble the gearbox; the service station is unlikely to agree to this, and the cost of such work is very high.
Thus, the failure of the filter will sooner or later entail a breakdown of the entire automatic transmission. A clogged filter causes an increase in pressure working fluid at the input of the system and its absence at the output. As a result - the inability to get under way or the start of movement at high engine speeds. This means that the automatic transmission in the CR-V is out of order and very expensive repairs will be required.
Optimal and correct for the 3rd generation CR-V will be a partial replacement, in which the automatic transmission will require about 4 liters ATF oils DW1 - strange as it may seem at first glance. This transmission fluid replaces ATF Z1 and is fully compatible with it. That is, it is possible to partially replace ATF DW1 instead of the previously filled ATF Z1.
The procedure for partial replacement of the lubricant
Oil change in a 3rd generation Honda SRV car is displayed in the video - many videos on this topic can be found on the Internet. Partial replacement of the lubricating fluid can be carried out independently, only for this you need to place the car on an overpass or above a viewing pit. In addition, you need to purchase 4 liters of the original transmission ATF fluids DW1 (preferably with a small margin), and also have rubber gloves, work clothes, a set of tools and a container into which the old liquid will be drained.
- The engine and transmission are warming up, the Honda CR-V is placed on an overpass or above a viewing pit. The hood opens, and 5 minutes after the engine is turned off, the oil level in the automatic transmission is measured. If it is below the required level, a new one is added to the filler hole (where the dipstick was) to the required level (just below the upper mark of the dipstick). After this procedure, the probe is not installed back.
- After another 5-10 minutes, you can drain the old transmission fluid... A temporary delay is made so that the oil cools down a little and does not cause burns. Then you need to find the drain hole. The machine should be located to the right of the engine belt. In order to get to the drain plug, you will have to remove the protection (if installed) and clean the drain plug with a metal brush from dirt. She should be near the right front wheel Honda SRV.
- A container with a volume of at least 4 liters is placed under the cork, and the cork is carefully unscrewed with a 3/8 square. It is necessary to tighten it with your fingers, after putting on gloves so that it does not fall into the container. Oil will begin to flow out of the automatic transmission crankcase.
- After a while, it will stop flowing altogether. The container should contain about 3–3.5 liters of waste liquid. After that, the magnetic end of the drain plug must be cleaned of metal shavings and dirt, for this you can use WD-40. After cleaning, it is imperative to replace the old aluminum washer in the cork with a new one.
- The volume of the leaked liquid is measured, this can be done using plastic bottles with a volume of 1 liter, pouring mining there. After that, it will be known more precisely how much of the old grease has flowed out.
- The plug is installed in its place. The filling phase of the new lubricant begins. For this purpose, you can use a funnel with a hose or a large syringe (not medical), to which you also need to connect a hose. The hose is inserted into the filler hole (where the dipstick is). Replacing a new transmission fluid in an automatic transmission is carried out in the same volume as that leaked out.
- In the process of filling, you need to be careful not to pour ATF, it is better to add a little later. Otherwise, you will have to climb under the hood again, remove the dipstick and suck the excess liquid back with a syringe.
- The engine starts and warms up, and with it the automatic transmission. After warming up, the motor turns off and a temporary pause is taken from 3 to 5 minutes. Only after that the level of the working fluid is measured with a dipstick. This sequence is required for the Honda CR-V.
According to the oil level in the Honda CR-V automatic transmission: some masters advise that it be on the upper bar of the dipstick. Others believe that the level should be located in the middle, between the minimum and maximum. In any case, the car will drive normally, the main thing is that the level is not higher than the maximum. Otherwise, the gearbox will have problems over time.
And one more tip: do not fill in transmission fluid from other manufacturers - only from Honda. Only in this case, the CR-V transmission will delight with trouble-free confident operation.
There are also supporters of a complete lubricant change, but this may require 10-12 liters of ATF. Replacement is done in 2-3 steps, between them you need to drive a car for a week.
